Comments on: 04-04-05 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-05/ Promoting Science and Critical Thinking Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:04:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: F. Norman Lampert http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-05/#comment-893 F. Norman Lampert Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:37:26 +0000 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/?p=670#comment-893 In response to Mr. Wallach: Both archaelogical and DNA evidence confirm that the modern Jews, whether from Europe, the Middle East, or Asia, all derive from the Levant area that Israel is a part of. The Jewish people are the indigenous population to what the Romans called Palestine. This is a historical fact. The only reason that they had to reestablish is state in 1948 is that the Romans expelled the vast majority of the population 1900 years earlier, and both the Christian and Muslim majorities that Jews found themselves among treated them with such hostility that the need for self-rule was overwheling. The Holocaust was just the final event in a long series of tragedies that makes this point self-evident. In response to Mr. Wallach:
Both archaelogical and DNA evidence confirm that the modern Jews, whether from Europe, the Middle East, or Asia, all derive from the Levant area that Israel is a part of. The Jewish people are the indigenous population to what the Romans called Palestine. This is a historical fact. The only reason that they had to reestablish is state in 1948 is that the Romans expelled the vast majority of the population 1900 years earlier, and both the Christian and Muslim majorities that Jews found themselves among treated them with such hostility that the need for self-rule was overwheling. The Holocaust was just the final event in a long series of tragedies that makes this point self-evident.

]]> By: John Shoemaker http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-05/#comment-451 John Shoemaker Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:12:25 +0000 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/?p=670#comment-451 Archaeology-philology tells us that Exodus was the last of the Biblical books to appear after 500 BCE. A text on Chabad.org before they died when Charon attacked the rock pile(Webmaster saidthey hada year long computer problem) explained the significance of passing thruthe RED sea. All the psychologically valuable stuff disappeared from the site and it offered bellicose trites of inner.org(Jerusalem) Picture Egypt as the head, the RED sea as the neck and the holy land as the body. The head(of us humans) is full of the internal dialogue--usually about ones addictions(babelling, eating, neuroenhancers, sex, comfort etc.) The neck, restriction between head and body bears the vocal cords and moves tothese thoughts even whenthe lungs are still. The neck, RED sea seperates the body though feelings, fears from the unconscious stirred by the slavery to addictions in the head do dribble thru. Re-ligion in Latin means reconnection. Ligaments connect nerve-material(brain) to elements-limbs of the body. Religions help stop the internal dialogue. When the Hieroglyphs text of Exodus is understood we will see that Mem Sheen Hay(drawn out of the water) on paper tablets with the pitch in lines is an aid in reconnecting mind and body, quelling the internal dialogue. Exodus doesn't hold this "crossing" was of YM SWP Red Sea. Only sea. My Tanach has a picture of a trek from Succoth, Etham on to the sea across from Baal Zephon. Baal Zephon is on the north of a peninsula from Egypt a little east of the Nile. Still on the map. At the end of the peninsula is a line of water-level rocks that go east and miles later return to Egypt. An East wind would bare them; the returnig wave would drown them. Askarabbi.com and askmoses.com both answered that they didn't have a Tanach printed in Jerusalem. Can anyone direct me to a source that can date Exodus. I wonder if it comes after the myth of the 72 who created the stories in the Septuagint--reputed to be 290 BCE. Archaeology-philology tells us that Exodus was the last of the Biblical books to appear after 500 BCE. A text on Chabad.org before they died when Charon attacked the rock pile(Webmaster saidthey hada year long computer problem) explained the significance of passing thruthe RED sea. All the psychologically valuable stuff disappeared from the site and it offered bellicose trites of inner.org(Jerusalem)
Picture Egypt as the head, the RED sea as the neck and the holy land as the body. The head(of us humans) is full of the internal dialogue–usually about ones addictions(babelling, eating, neuroenhancers, sex, comfort etc.) The neck, restriction between head and body bears the vocal cords and moves tothese thoughts even whenthe lungs are still. The neck, RED sea seperates the body though feelings, fears from the unconscious stirred by the slavery to addictions in the head do dribble thru.
Re-ligion in Latin means reconnection. Ligaments connect nerve-material(brain) to elements-limbs of the body. Religions help stop the internal dialogue.
When the Hieroglyphs text of Exodus is understood we will see that Mem Sheen Hay(drawn out of the water) on paper tablets with the pitch in lines is an aid in reconnecting mind and body, quelling the internal dialogue. Exodus doesn’t hold this “crossing” was of YM SWP Red Sea. Only sea.

My Tanach has a picture of a trek from Succoth, Etham on to the sea across from Baal Zephon. Baal Zephon is on the north of a peninsula from Egypt a little east of the Nile. Still on the map.
At the end of the peninsula is a line of water-level rocks that go east and miles later return to Egypt. An East wind would bare them; the returnig wave would drown them.

Askarabbi.com and askmoses.com both answered that they didn’t have a Tanach printed in Jerusalem.
Can anyone direct me to a source that can date Exodus. I wonder if it comes after the myth of the 72 who created the stories in the Septuagint–reputed to be 290 BCE.

]]> By: John Wallach http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-05/#comment-307 John Wallach Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:50:30 +0000 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/?p=670#comment-307 I am really surprised at the paucity of response to this piece. If the Jews were not led out of Egypt and into a land given to them by God, how does one justify what is taking place in Palestine today? I am really surprised at the paucity of response to this piece. If the Jews were not led out of Egypt and into a land given to them by God, how does one justify what is taking place in Palestine today?

]]> By: John Lepiarz http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-05/#comment-260 John Lepiarz Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:47:49 +0000 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/?p=670#comment-260 As a life long agnostic who is married to a spirtually searching jewess, this opens up some interesting points of discussion. thank you As a life long agnostic who is married to a spirtually searching jewess, this opens up some interesting points of discussion. thank you

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