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		<title>By: Paul Hai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 11:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>continued from last post ...

Thanks for taking the time to study my work.
Ezekiel’s vision is solved by accident however.
Firstly, I had to discover how 2.3 million blocks of stone were raised in just twenty years (historically documented) for construction of Khufu’s Great Pyramid.
Rampless Pyramid construction was realised during university research on the Sunday afternoon of 27 August 2006.
The pinion-pulley lobes are known by many people as “Petrie rockers” after William Matthew Flinders Petrie was handed one in 1895 for his Petrie museum in London. This “rocker” was found at Deir El Bahari in the temple complex of Pharaoh Hatshepsut and bears the cartouche of the woman Pharaoh Hatshepsut which translates as “Elegant Lady”.
The lobed components when fitted around a block of stone do NOT form a wheel but a four lobe array or as I began to realise, “wheels within wheels” and found myself reading and studying Ezekiel’s vision over and over for hours.
How else could a person describe a LOBE in 590 BC ?
“Wheels within wheels” is referring to the four lobes as fitted around a Pyramid block.
Some readers will be asking if The Great Pyramid could have been built within twenty years as historical documents state?
Let us suppose ten of these “wheels within wheels” wooden machines were operating on each side of the Pyramid, so there were forty “wheels within wheels” wooden machines at work back in 2500 BC.
The workers were NOT slaves, so let them have an eight hour day (or the cool of night, working by torch-light) and let them raise one block per machine to its place per hour.
The daily work of forty “wheels within wheels” wooden machines raises 320 blocks per day.
With 365 days in a year this is 116,800 blocks raised per year and in twenty years Khufu’s Great Pyramid has been completed with an estimated 2,336,000 blocks being raised and placed.
Ramps are NOT mentioned in any historical documents relating to Giza Pyramid construction and all ramp theories are modern and not related to real ancient history. All ramp theories become null and void anyway due to the fact that 2.3 million blocks of stone had to be placed within twenty years, so ramp theorists have stated Greek historian Herodotus was a liar and Egyptian historian priests did not know what they were talking about … and there was a mix-up with the translation from Egyptian to Greek. Most of these ramp theorists people are highly paid experts (ex-spurts) who have made documentary films and written their lies into books. You all know who they are.

When we read of men having clawed feet or a calf’s foot this is not about deformed people or aliens.
This has to be interpreted as men carrying or working with clawed feet apparatus or the apparatus has a calf’s foot shaped attachment.
There are two centrally edge located notches cut out in the base of many Pyramid blocks where these attachments were placed for lifting the blocks so the opened and laid flat pinion-pulley lobes, like an open bracelet, could be pulled underneath, wrapped around a Pyramid block and closed, making it ready for its step-walk upward on the Pyramid’s steps.
These lifting devices are known as claw-lifts. (Reference the Ersnt von Sieglin German expedition of 1909-1910)</description>
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<p>Thanks for taking the time to study my work.<br />
Ezekiel’s vision is solved by accident however.<br />
Firstly, I had to discover how 2.3 million blocks of stone were raised in just twenty years (historically documented) for construction of Khufu’s Great Pyramid.<br />
Rampless Pyramid construction was realised during university research on the Sunday afternoon of 27 August 2006.<br />
The pinion-pulley lobes are known by many people as “Petrie rockers” after William Matthew Flinders Petrie was handed one in 1895 for his Petrie museum in London. This “rocker” was found at Deir El Bahari in the temple complex of Pharaoh Hatshepsut and bears the cartouche of the woman Pharaoh Hatshepsut which translates as “Elegant Lady”.<br />
The lobed components when fitted around a block of stone do NOT form a wheel but a four lobe array or as I began to realise, “wheels within wheels” and found myself reading and studying Ezekiel’s vision over and over for hours.<br />
How else could a person describe a LOBE in 590 BC ?<br />
“Wheels within wheels” is referring to the four lobes as fitted around a Pyramid block.<br />
Some readers will be asking if The Great Pyramid could have been built within twenty years as historical documents state?<br />
Let us suppose ten of these “wheels within wheels” wooden machines were operating on each side of the Pyramid, so there were forty “wheels within wheels” wooden machines at work back in 2500 BC.<br />
The workers were NOT slaves, so let them have an eight hour day (or the cool of night, working by torch-light) and let them raise one block per machine to its place per hour.<br />
The daily work of forty “wheels within wheels” wooden machines raises 320 blocks per day.<br />
With 365 days in a year this is 116,800 blocks raised per year and in twenty years Khufu’s Great Pyramid has been completed with an estimated 2,336,000 blocks being raised and placed.<br />
Ramps are NOT mentioned in any historical documents relating to Giza Pyramid construction and all ramp theories are modern and not related to real ancient history. All ramp theories become null and void anyway due to the fact that 2.3 million blocks of stone had to be placed within twenty years, so ramp theorists have stated Greek historian Herodotus was a liar and Egyptian historian priests did not know what they were talking about … and there was a mix-up with the translation from Egyptian to Greek. Most of these ramp theorists people are highly paid experts (ex-spurts) who have made documentary films and written their lies into books. You all know who they are.</p>
<p>When we read of men having clawed feet or a calf’s foot this is not about deformed people or aliens.<br />
This has to be interpreted as men carrying or working with clawed feet apparatus or the apparatus has a calf’s foot shaped attachment.<br />
There are two centrally edge located notches cut out in the base of many Pyramid blocks where these attachments were placed for lifting the blocks so the opened and laid flat pinion-pulley lobes, like an open bracelet, could be pulled underneath, wrapped around a Pyramid block and closed, making it ready for its step-walk upward on the Pyramid’s steps.<br />
These lifting devices are known as claw-lifts. (Reference the Ersnt von Sieglin German expedition of 1909-1910)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hai</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-5058</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ezekiel writes of machines thus,”their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.” A Pyramid block with pulleys fitted is about one metre wide and one and a half metres high. When numerous pulleys were ascending the Pyramid during the cool of night by firelight, the scene would certainly be high and awesome. Ezekiel writes of what appears to be the lifting devices used to fit the pulley which he writes are straight with a calf shaped foot made of bronze. These devices are known as “clawlifts” and are fully explained in the book, RAISING STONE 1. I suspected the clawlifts were made of timber and their feet strengthened with bronze plates. There is no need to consider Ezekiel mentally sick and there is no need to entertain any ideas of UFO’s and aliens. The building of the Pyramids was a dramatic event of ancient times using the latest technology involving machinery. This machinery was designed and manufactured by MAN, and having the strength of an OX, could soar like an EAGLE and leap like a LION. The four faces are the associated attributes of the machinery itself. The CHERUBS are the pulleys climbing as if alive and their WINGS are the pulley lobes which touch each other as they are tied together around a beryl coloured sandstone block to be part of the THRONE. The THRONE is the Pyramid. The NOISE and WHIRLWIND refer to much activity onsite at Giza. (This ancient bible documented report is dated c.590 BC)
I need to be specific about … “and all four rims were full of eyes all around”.
Ezekiel’s reference to “eyes all around” is how the cross-pegs (for the rope) appear on the outer faces of the four pinion-pulley’s lobes.
These “eyes” are adjacent the four rims of the four pinion-pulley lobes and so are “all around”.
These “eyes” are, to be specific, the round flat ends of the cross-pegs.
These end pegs were more than likely enhanced with paint to give animal’s eyes appearance, to bestow animal qualities to the pinion-pulleys operation. (Bird’s eyes for flight, lion’s eyes for power and so forth).
There are today only two ancient documents related to ancient Egyptian Pyramid construction at Giza.
“Ezekiel’s vision” and information given to Herodotus of Halicarnassus (The Greek Father of History) c.450 BC by his counterparts at Giza who were the historian priests as the ancient priesthood were literate and it is they who recorded history that was Egypt’s concern and interest.
For instance Egyptian priests recorded the devastating eruption of the Thera (Kalliste) volcano which occurred 1627-1600 BC as this event caused horrific events in Egypt and caused the declining Minoan (Kalliste) Maritime Empire, Egypts trading partner, an accelerated decline.
Ezekiel’s “vision” is a firmly established real event which has been much talked about for years in the Middle East.
Ezekiel would have heard accounts from relatives of people who had been employed by Pharaoh Khufu’s administration and/or the administration of Khafre and Menkaure.
Ezekiel’s account may lack the technical language we take for granted, but knowing the subject of his “vision” gives us an insight into the quaintness of ancient language.
References to animals was part of the ancient world in language and in artifacts.
“He’s as strong as an ox, fights like a lion and can run like a cheetah”.
Ancient furniture legs have animal feet, paws and claws and arm-rests have animal paws and claws for instance.
This tradition has continued into modern times, but today we have technical language available to us when we want to be clear and precise.
www.haitheory.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezekiel writes of machines thus,”their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.” A Pyramid block with pulleys fitted is about one metre wide and one and a half metres high. When numerous pulleys were ascending the Pyramid during the cool of night by firelight, the scene would certainly be high and awesome. Ezekiel writes of what appears to be the lifting devices used to fit the pulley which he writes are straight with a calf shaped foot made of bronze. These devices are known as “clawlifts” and are fully explained in the book, RAISING STONE 1. I suspected the clawlifts were made of timber and their feet strengthened with bronze plates. There is no need to consider Ezekiel mentally sick and there is no need to entertain any ideas of UFO’s and aliens. The building of the Pyramids was a dramatic event of ancient times using the latest technology involving machinery. This machinery was designed and manufactured by MAN, and having the strength of an OX, could soar like an EAGLE and leap like a LION. The four faces are the associated attributes of the machinery itself. The CHERUBS are the pulleys climbing as if alive and their WINGS are the pulley lobes which touch each other as they are tied together around a beryl coloured sandstone block to be part of the THRONE. The THRONE is the Pyramid. The NOISE and WHIRLWIND refer to much activity onsite at Giza. (This ancient bible documented report is dated c.590 BC)<br />
I need to be specific about … “and all four rims were full of eyes all around”.<br />
Ezekiel’s reference to “eyes all around” is how the cross-pegs (for the rope) appear on the outer faces of the four pinion-pulley’s lobes.<br />
These “eyes” are adjacent the four rims of the four pinion-pulley lobes and so are “all around”.<br />
These “eyes” are, to be specific, the round flat ends of the cross-pegs.<br />
These end pegs were more than likely enhanced with paint to give animal’s eyes appearance, to bestow animal qualities to the pinion-pulleys operation. (Bird’s eyes for flight, lion’s eyes for power and so forth).<br />
There are today only two ancient documents related to ancient Egyptian Pyramid construction at Giza.<br />
“Ezekiel’s vision” and information given to Herodotus of Halicarnassus (The Greek Father of History) c.450 BC by his counterparts at Giza who were the historian priests as the ancient priesthood were literate and it is they who recorded history that was Egypt’s concern and interest.<br />
For instance Egyptian priests recorded the devastating eruption of the Thera (Kalliste) volcano which occurred 1627-1600 BC as this event caused horrific events in Egypt and caused the declining Minoan (Kalliste) Maritime Empire, Egypts trading partner, an accelerated decline.<br />
Ezekiel’s “vision” is a firmly established real event which has been much talked about for years in the Middle East.<br />
Ezekiel would have heard accounts from relatives of people who had been employed by Pharaoh Khufu’s administration and/or the administration of Khafre and Menkaure.<br />
Ezekiel’s account may lack the technical language we take for granted, but knowing the subject of his “vision” gives us an insight into the quaintness of ancient language.<br />
References to animals was part of the ancient world in language and in artifacts.<br />
“He’s as strong as an ox, fights like a lion and can run like a cheetah”.<br />
Ancient furniture legs have animal feet, paws and claws and arm-rests have animal paws and claws for instance.<br />
This tradition has continued into modern times, but today we have technical language available to us when we want to be clear and precise.<br />
<a href="http://www.haitheory.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.haitheory.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-4932</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cherubim.... which means angel.... which a mistranslation for messenger. Where does it say that god is Omniscient in the bible. Where does it say he is Omnipresent. In fact several points in the bible point more towards God being an alien then him being a supernatural force, for instance. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed BY god. with fire. It also gives a pretty good explanation about tumors and radiation poisoning in spots. its not just the book of Ezekiel,  a book from the dead sea scrolls &quot;the book of Enoch&quot; is very interesting as well.also  Moses face shone after coming down from the mountain with the tablets after being with God for 40 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cherubim&#8230;. which means angel&#8230;. which a mistranslation for messenger. Where does it say that god is Omniscient in the bible. Where does it say he is Omnipresent. In fact several points in the bible point more towards God being an alien then him being a supernatural force, for instance. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed BY god. with fire. It also gives a pretty good explanation about tumors and radiation poisoning in spots. its not just the book of Ezekiel,  a book from the dead sea scrolls &#8220;the book of Enoch&#8221; is very interesting as well.also  Moses face shone after coming down from the mountain with the tablets after being with God for 40 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3580</link>
		<dc:creator>Really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in nutshell skeptics opinion is that angels are real, but aliens are not...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in nutshell skeptics opinion is that angels are real, but aliens are not&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Awaken</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3550</link>
		<dc:creator>Awaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 11:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can man reach this level when he is filled with hatred, greed, and lust for sex and money? Besides all that racism is still a live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can man reach this level when he is filled with hatred, greed, and lust for sex and money? Besides all that racism is still a live.</p>
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		<title>By: Ailton</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ailton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 22:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people of guinea, didn&#039;t know the airplane, so they thought it was god&#039;s spaceship. That is clear to us because the airplane obviouslly was already invented in the second ww. 
The problem is that in the days of Ezekiel, there were no planes. The only things able to fly would be birds at that time. 
To discribe some spaceship of any kind back then, is intriguing. 
Personally, I&#039;m not religious, though I&#039;m spiritual. 
I&#039;ve read the bible and everytime God and angels and spirits and heaven are mentioned, I think of a civilization on another planet, much much older than our civilization here on earth, which just a few hundred years ago, didn&#039;t have a car or airplane, never mind spaceships capable of traveling thru outta space.
If we think of God as creator, and heaven above, it&#039;s not implausible to imagine the whole thing as being  a civilization, leaving in the form of spirits, on a level so superior, that we would only be able to understande, by developping ourselves spiritually, to the level where we can appreciate that possibility and including ourselves in that midst.
Tele transportation on that level is also plausible, including re-materialization. 
I would rather believe in that, which would include our material beliefs, than simply a God whom, somehow influences our daily lives and &quot;created&quot; us in his likeness, but yet only lives in our inner thoughts, and is not accepted in the context of a real live being, visiting and communicating with us and perhaps giving us a ride to his &quot;paradise&quot; in another constelation. 
If we are to accept the concept of God and other living forms, then we must think big. We must abandon our limitations and open our minds to time travel, other societies millions of years ahead of us and understand that only spiritually, can we hope to join live as it might exist in the greater universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of guinea, didn&#8217;t know the airplane, so they thought it was god&#8217;s spaceship. That is clear to us because the airplane obviouslly was already invented in the second ww.<br />
The problem is that in the days of Ezekiel, there were no planes. The only things able to fly would be birds at that time.<br />
To discribe some spaceship of any kind back then, is intriguing.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;m not religious, though I&#8217;m spiritual.<br />
I&#8217;ve read the bible and everytime God and angels and spirits and heaven are mentioned, I think of a civilization on another planet, much much older than our civilization here on earth, which just a few hundred years ago, didn&#8217;t have a car or airplane, never mind spaceships capable of traveling thru outta space.<br />
If we think of God as creator, and heaven above, it&#8217;s not implausible to imagine the whole thing as being  a civilization, leaving in the form of spirits, on a level so superior, that we would only be able to understande, by developping ourselves spiritually, to the level where we can appreciate that possibility and including ourselves in that midst.<br />
Tele transportation on that level is also plausible, including re-materialization.<br />
I would rather believe in that, which would include our material beliefs, than simply a God whom, somehow influences our daily lives and &#8220;created&#8221; us in his likeness, but yet only lives in our inner thoughts, and is not accepted in the context of a real live being, visiting and communicating with us and perhaps giving us a ride to his &#8220;paradise&#8221; in another constelation.<br />
If we are to accept the concept of God and other living forms, then we must think big. We must abandon our limitations and open our minds to time travel, other societies millions of years ahead of us and understand that only spiritually, can we hope to join live as it might exist in the greater universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3537</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 20:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t have your cake and eat it too.  If you are using a Bible prophet&#039;s vision of some strange &quot;thing&quot; as evidence for something, then you have to accept what the rest of the Bible says.  Either it&#039;s a true account and testimony of human history or it&#039;s not.  No picking and choosing what you want to believe.  And the entire scope of the Bible is very clear.  There is one God, the Creator, who is omniscient and omnipresent.  There are also angels.  These angels have taken very physical manifestations throughout Biblical history - enough so to the point that the fallen angels actually took human wives and corrupted the human bloodline, resulting the Great Flood - which coincidentally is another argument for the &quot;ancient alien visitation&quot; theorists.

Point being, the Bible is very clear about who and what God is.  He is not an alien that visited mankind in a spaceship as the &quot;Ezekiel Spaceship&quot; theorists would like to believe.  Of course &quot;God’s existence is completely irrefutable and taken for granted at the beginning of the argument&quot; - Because we use the ENTIRE Bible as a gauge to confirm who He is.  Not just one chapter from one book.  By using more of the Bible - in fact more of the Book of Ezekiel -  Ezekiel himself said in chapter 10 that the vision he described in chapter 1 were &quot;cherubim&quot; or angels.  Definitely not some alien spacecraft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it too.  If you are using a Bible prophet&#8217;s vision of some strange &#8220;thing&#8221; as evidence for something, then you have to accept what the rest of the Bible says.  Either it&#8217;s a true account and testimony of human history or it&#8217;s not.  No picking and choosing what you want to believe.  And the entire scope of the Bible is very clear.  There is one God, the Creator, who is omniscient and omnipresent.  There are also angels.  These angels have taken very physical manifestations throughout Biblical history &#8211; enough so to the point that the fallen angels actually took human wives and corrupted the human bloodline, resulting the Great Flood &#8211; which coincidentally is another argument for the &#8220;ancient alien visitation&#8221; theorists.</p>
<p>Point being, the Bible is very clear about who and what God is.  He is not an alien that visited mankind in a spaceship as the &#8220;Ezekiel Spaceship&#8221; theorists would like to believe.  Of course &#8220;God’s existence is completely irrefutable and taken for granted at the beginning of the argument&#8221; &#8211; Because we use the ENTIRE Bible as a gauge to confirm who He is.  Not just one chapter from one book.  By using more of the Bible &#8211; in fact more of the Book of Ezekiel &#8211;  Ezekiel himself said in chapter 10 that the vision he described in chapter 1 were &#8220;cherubim&#8221; or angels.  Definitely not some alien spacecraft.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fabian</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3215</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Blumrich&#039;s book and also the book of Ezekiel in the Bible, I am convinced that Ezekiel is trying to describe an extraterrestrial machine from the perspective that an ancient man would. The natives of New Guinea and Malenesia thought that aircraft that came there during WW2 were from the &quot;Gods&quot; and after the war built mockups of aircraft out of straw &amp; wood to lure the &quot;God&#039;s&#039; back (Cargo Cult). While of course Blumrichs book does not prove that what Ezekiel was describing was a vehicle from beyond Earth, it is probably the best explanation to date to explain this very unusual chapter in the Old Testament.... far more compelling than Callahan&#039;s arguments. One could easily dismiss the &quot;Cargo Cult &#039; airplane effigys as stylized bird gods using his train of reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Blumrich&#8217;s book and also the book of Ezekiel in the Bible, I am convinced that Ezekiel is trying to describe an extraterrestrial machine from the perspective that an ancient man would. The natives of New Guinea and Malenesia thought that aircraft that came there during WW2 were from the &#8220;Gods&#8221; and after the war built mockups of aircraft out of straw &amp; wood to lure the &#8220;God&#8217;s&#8217; back (Cargo Cult). While of course Blumrichs book does not prove that what Ezekiel was describing was a vehicle from beyond Earth, it is probably the best explanation to date to explain this very unusual chapter in the Old Testament&#8230;. far more compelling than Callahan&#8217;s arguments. One could easily dismiss the &#8220;Cargo Cult &#8216; airplane effigys as stylized bird gods using his train of reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-3042</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the first time I read Ezekial, the first thought I had was he was describing a UFO, which prompted me to seek more info on the net, lo and behold someone else had the same feeling, the initial image comes through regardless how you interpret it, he,s describing a superior being, when you think of the history of the earth and the short span of man,s existence on this planet, in comparison to the theory of evolution how and why could someone such as Ezekial have this kind of profound vision if not by a visitation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the first time I read Ezekial, the first thought I had was he was describing a UFO, which prompted me to seek more info on the net, lo and behold someone else had the same feeling, the initial image comes through regardless how you interpret it, he,s describing a superior being, when you think of the history of the earth and the short span of man,s existence on this planet, in comparison to the theory of evolution how and why could someone such as Ezekial have this kind of profound vision if not by a visitation</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/05-07-28/#comment-2988</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are certain comments on here from religious zealots who say things like &quot;you must believe that aliens are God&quot; etc. ....You could never hope to freely discuss a subject like this (such as the alternative interpretations of a prophet&#039;s alleged visions) with a religious zealot, because to them, God&#039;s existence is completely irrefutable and taken for granted at the beginning of the argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are certain comments on here from religious zealots who say things like &#8220;you must believe that aliens are God&#8221; etc. &#8230;.You could never hope to freely discuss a subject like this (such as the alternative interpretations of a prophet&#8217;s alleged visions) with a religious zealot, because to them, God&#8217;s existence is completely irrefutable and taken for granted at the beginning of the argument.</p>
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