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EPISODE # 380

Greg Lukianoff & Rikki Schlott — Cancel Culture and What to Do About It

The Canceling of the American Mind: Cancel Culture Undermines Trust and Threatens Us All―But There Is a Solution (book cover)

Cancel Culture is a new phenomenon, and The Canceling of the American Mind is the first book to codify it and survey its effects. From the team that brought you the bestselling Coddling of the American Mind comes hard data and research on what cancel culture is and how it works, along with hundreds of new examples showing the left and the right both working to silence their enemies.

The Canceling of the American Mind will change how you view cancel culture. Rather than a moral panic, we should consider it a dysfunctional part of how Americans battle for power, status, and dominance. Cancel culture is just one symptom of a much larger problem: the use of cheap rhetorical tactics to “win” arguments without actually winning arguments. After all, why bother refuting your opponents when you can just take away their platform or career?

The good news is that we can beat back this threat to democracy through better citizenship. The Canceling of the American Mind offers concrete steps toward reclaiming a free speech culture, with materials specifically tailored for parents, teachers, business leaders, and everyone who uses social media. We can all show intellectual humility and promote the essential American principles of individuality, resilience, and open mindedness.

Greg Lukianoff is the president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) and one of the country’s most passionate defenders of free expression. He has written on free-speech issues in the nation’s top newspapers, including the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post, and was executive producer of the documentaries Can We Take a Joke? and Mighty Ira. Lukianoff earned his undergraduate degree from American University and his law degree from Stanford. He worked for the ACLU of Northern California, the Organization for Aid to Refugees, and the EnvironMentors Project before joining FIRE in 2001.

Rikki Schlott is a New York City-based journalist and political commentator. She is a research fellow at FIRE, host of the Lost Debate podcast, a columnist at the New York Post, and a regular contributor to numerous publications and television programs. Her commentary focuses on free speech, campus culture, civil liberties, and youth issues from a Generation Z perspective.

Shermer and Lukianoff and Schlott discuss:

  • the definition of Cancel Culture
  • The Henny Youngman Principle: “Compared to what?” Rates of cancel culture
  • Is Cancel Culture an imagined moral panic?
  • Cancel Culture on the political Left
  • Cancel Culture on the political Right
  • Social media and Cancel Culture
  • Free speech law vs. free speech norms
  • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and Cancel Culture
  • Sensitivity training programs
  • Bias Hotlines and the silencing of speech
  • Pluralistic Ignorance and the spiral of silence
  • The 4 Great Untruths
  • Jean Twenge’s theory of generational change
  • Solutions to cancel culture.

This episode was released on October 24, 2023.

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